-Denzinger; The Sources of Catholic Dogma; Documents of the Roman Pontiffs and of the Councils; Council of Nicea II 787; Ecumenical VII (against the Iconoclasts)

Definition of the Sacred Images and Tradition *; ACTION VII

302 (I. Definition) . . . We, continuing in the regal path, and following the divinely inspired teaching of our Holy Fathers, and the tradition of the Catholic Church, for we know that this is of the Holy Spirit who certainly dwells in it, define in all certitude and diligence that as the figure of the honored and life-giving Cross, so the venerable and holy images, the ones from tinted materials and from marble as those from other material, must be suitably placed in the holy churches of God, both on sacred vessels and vestments, and on the walls and on the altars, at home and on the streets, namely such images of our Lord Jesus Christ, God and Savior, and of our undefiled lady, or holy Mother of God, and of the honorable angels, and, at the same time, of all the saints and of holy men. For, how much more frequently through the imaginal formation they are seen, so much more quickly are those who contemplate these, raised to the memory and desire of the originals of these, to kiss and to render honorable veneration to them, not however, to grant true latria according to our faith, which is proper to divine nature alone; but just as to the figure of the revered and life-giving Cross and to the holy gospels, and to the other sacred monuments, let an oblation of incense and lights be made to give honor to these as was the pious custom with the ancients. “For the honor of the image passes to the original”; * and he who shows reverence to the image, shows reverence to the substance of Him depicted in it.

- Harmony Media, Inc.; 1995; P.O. Box 138; Gervais, OR 97026; Church History; “St. John Damascene (c. 675-749), monk and priest, was the great doctor of the Church of the period. His “Three Discourses On images” made the points that: (1) though God cannot be represented by an image, Christ, the Blessed Virgin, and the saints could be depicted with approximate fidelity; (2) it is licit to revere images, provided that the veneration transcends the material icon to the prototype; (3) it is profitable to revere images, which can instruct, inspire, and exercise a certain intercession with God; and (4) that to avoid error one ought to distinguish between strict worship paid to God alone, and veneration of a person or thing as related to God

-Fr. M. Guzman; Catholic Catechism; 1995: #563 “It is right to show respect to the statues and pictures of Christ and of the saints, just as it is right to show respect to the images of those whom we honor or love on earth.”

-Fr. M. Guzman; Catholic Catechism; 1995: #564 “We honor Christ and the saints when we pray before the crucifix, relics and sacred images because we honor the persons they represent; we adore Christ and venerate the saints.”

-Fr. M. Guzman; Catholic Catechism; 1995: #565 “We do not pray to the crucifix or to the images and relics of the saints, but to the persons they represent.”

-Atty. Teofilo Tumulak; Dili Ang Tanan; 1985; Page 113 “Hinoon ang idolatry (Exodo 20:3) nagapadayon, apan dili sabton nga ang mga Katolico nakasupak niini kay ang pag-ampo nila sa gilarawanan dili man ingon nga Dios.” (Datapuwat ang idolatry (Exo. 20:3)ay nagpapatuloy; peru hindi ibig sabihin na ang mga Katolico ay nakalabag nito dahil sa pagdadasal nila sa nilalarawan ng imahe (ng mga Santo) ay hindi bilang isang Dios.)

Napatunayan napo natin na hindi sinasamba ng mga Katoiko ang mga larawan bilang Dios; kaya mali po ang tanong ng ating mga kapatid na protestante. Kung gayon tayo bang mga Katoliko ay hindi sumunod sa utos ng Dios sa Exo. 20:4-5? Mga kapatid sumunod po ang Katoliko sa utos na yan; eh kung sumunod ang mga Katoliko sa Exo. 20:4-5; eh bakit may mga larawan o emahi sa kanilang simbahan (marahil yan ang susunod na tanong ng ating mga kaibigan)???

Dapat mo nating malaman na kung tayo ay magbabasa ng Biblia; hindi po natin dapat limitahan ang ating mga pananaw sa mga bagay na inaakala natin na tama. Tulad nalang sa argumentong ito:

Bawal ang mga imahe (Exo. 20:4-5)

Ang mga Katoliko ay may mga imahe

Therefore; Ang mga imahe ng katoliko ay bawal

Sa itaas ay ang halimbawa ng fallacy of generalization ng mga kapatid nating mga protestante dahil, ang Biblia bagaman ay nakasaad ng mga talata na bawal ang mga emahi; ay may roon ding mga nakasulat na utos ng Dios na pagpagawa ng mga imahi; narito po ang mga ebedinsya:

Exo. 25:1, 18-22 (RSV) “The LORD said to Moses; 8 And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. 20 The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be. 21 And you shall put the mercy seat on the top of the ark; and in the ark you shall put the testimony that I shall give you. 22 There I will meet with you, and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim that are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak with you of all that I will give you in commandment for the people of Israel.”

Ano ba ang mga cherubim? Ito po ay mga anghil; at utos ng Dios na magpagawa ng mga statwa ng mga anghil; narito po ang mga ebidensya:

Exo. 25:18-22 (Living Bible) “Then make images of angels, using beaten gold, and place them at the two ends of the lid of the Ark. They shall be one piece with the mercy place, and shall have wings spread out above the gold lid. Install the lid upon the Ark, and the place within the Ark the tables of stone I shall give you. And I will meet with you there and talk with you from above the place of mercy between the cherubim; and the Ark will contain the laws of my covenant. There I will tell you my commandments for the people of Israel.” (Emphasize added)

At saan pa ilalagay ang mga imahi ng mga anghil? Eh ang Biblia po ang ating papasagutin:

2 Cron:3:1; 7-14 (RSV) “3:1Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the LORD had appeared to David his father, at the place that David had appointed, on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.” “3: 7-14 “So he lined the house with gold–its beams, its thresholds, its walls, and its doors; and he carved cherubim on the walls. And he made the most holy place; its length, corresponding to the breadth of the house, was twenty cubits, and its breadth was twenty cubits; he overlaid it with six hundred talents of fine gold. 9 The weight of the nails was one shekel* to fifty shekels of gold. And he overlaid the upper chambers with gold. In the most holy place he made two cherubim of wood* and overlaid* them with gold. 11 The wings of the cherubim together extended twenty cubits: one wing of the one, of five cubits, touched the wall of the house, and its other wing, of five cubits, touched the wing of the other cherub; 12 and of this cherub, one wing, of five cubits, touched the wall of the house, and the other wing, also of five cubits, was joined to the wing of the first cherub. 13 The wings of these cherubim extended twenty cubits; the cherubim* stood on their feet, facing the nave. 14 And he made the veil of blue and purple and crimson fabrics and fine linen, and worked cherubim on it.

Ano po ang nakalagay sa Biblia??? Sa templo ng Dios ilalagay ang mga imahi ng mga anghil!…

Tingnan po natin kung ano ang nakasaad sa ibang version ng Biblia:

2 Cron. 3:7 (The Living Bible) “All the walls, beam, doors, and the thresholds throughout the Temple were plated with gold, with angels engrave on the walls.”

2 Cron. 3:10 (The Living Bible) “Within the innermost, the Holy of Holies, Solomon placed two sculptured statues of angels, and plated them with gold.”

NAPAKALINAW NA TAYONG MGA KATOLIKO AY SUMUSUNOD LAMANG SA BIBLICAL TEMPLE OF GOD SA OLD TESTAMENT!!!

Eh, sumunod kaya ang mga protestante ditto?????????????????

At tungkol po naman sa paratang na tayong mga Katoliko ay Binago raw po natin ang sampung utos ng Diyos… Abay napakalinaw na talagang walang alam itong mga kapatid nating mga protestante sa Biblia; dahil dalawa po ang nakasaad/version ng sampong utos ng Dios diyan sa Biblia. Ang isa po ay makikita sa Exo. 20:4-17 at ang isa naman ay makikita sa Deut. 5:6-21; at pakaalaman natin na tayong mga Katoliko ay sumunod sa Deut. 5:6-21 na version. At dapat rin nating tandaan na ang sampong utos ay walang insaktong talaan ng bilang o numbers kaya may pagkaka-iba ang 10 commandments ng mga protestante; sa Katoliko/Luteranismo version.

Nasagutan po ang tanong at abangan po ang susunod na mga bahagi…….

Salamat pos a inyong pagbasa……

Eh, sumunod kaya ang mga protestante ditto?????????????????

At tungkol po naman sa paratang na tayong mga Katoliko ay Binago raw po natin ang sampung utos ng Diyos… Abay napakalinaw na talagang walang alam itong mga kapatid nating mga protestante sa Biblia; dahil dalawa po ang nakasaad/version ng sampong utos ng Dios diyan sa Biblia. Ang isa po ay makikita sa Exo. 20:4-17 at ang isa naman ay makikita sa Deut. 5:6-21; at pakaalaman natin na tayong mga Katoliko ay sumunod sa Deut. 5:6-21 na version. At dapat rin nating tandaan na ang sampong utos ay walang insaktong talaan ng bilang o numbers kaya may pagkaka-iba ang 10 commandments ng mga protestante; sa Katoliko/Luteranismo version.

Nasagutan po ang tanong at abangan po ang susunod na mga bahagi…….

Salamat pos a inyong pagbasa…… Abangan po ang pangalawang bahagi….

-Denzinger; The Sources of Catholic Dogma; Documents of the Roman Pontiffs and of the Councils; Council of Nicea II 787; Ecumenical VII (against the Iconoclasts)

Definition of the Sacred Images and Tradition *; ACTION VII

302 (I. Definition) . . . We, continuing in the regal path, and following the divinely inspired teaching of our Holy Fathers, and the tradition of the Catholic Church, for we know that this is of the Holy Spirit who certainly dwells in it, define in all certitude and diligence that as the figure of the honored and life-giving Cross, so the venerable and holy images, the ones from tinted materials and from marble as those from other material, must be suitably placed in the holy churches of God, both on sacred vessels and vestments, and on the walls and on the altars, at home and on the streets, namely such images of our Lord Jesus Christ, God and Savior, and of our undefiled lady, or holy Mother of God, and of the honorable angels, and, at the same time, of all the saints and of holy men. For, how much more frequently through the imaginal formation they are seen, so much more quickly are those who contemplate these, raised to the memory and desire of the originals of these, to kiss and to render honorable veneration to them, not however, to grant true latria according to our faith, which is proper to divine nature alone; but just as to the figure of the revered and life-giving Cross and to the holy gospels, and to the other sacred monuments, let an oblation of incense and lights be made to give honor to these as was the pious custom with the ancients. “For the honor of the image passes to the original”; * and he who shows reverence to the image, shows reverence to the substance of Him depicted in it.

- Harmony Media, Inc.; 1995; P.O. Box 138; Gervais, OR 97026; Church History; “St. John Damascene (c. 675-749), monk and priest, was the great doctor of the Church of the period. His “Three Discourses On images” made the points that: (1) though God cannot be represented by an image, Christ, the Blessed Virgin, and the saints could be depicted with approximate fidelity; (2) it is licit to revere images, provided that the veneration transcends the material icon to the prototype; (3) it is profitable to revere images, which can instruct, inspire, and exercise a certain intercession with God; and (4) that to avoid error one ought to distinguish between strict worship paid to God alone, and veneration of a person or thing as related to God

-Fr. M. Guzman; Catholic Catechism; 1995: #563 “It is right to show respect to the statues and pictures of Christ and of the saints, just as it is right to show respect to the images of those whom we honor or love on earth.”

-Fr. M. Guzman; Catholic Catechism; 1995: #564 “We honor Christ and the saints when we pray before the crucifix, relics and sacred images because we honor the persons they represent; we adore Christ and venerate the saints.”

-Fr. M. Guzman; Catholic Catechism; 1995: #565 “We do not pray to the crucifix or to the images and relics of the saints, but to the persons they represent.”

-Atty. Teofilo Tumulak; Dili Ang Tanan; 1985; Page 113 “Hinoon ang idolatry (Exodo 20:3) nagapadayon, apan dili sabton nga ang mga Katolico nakasupak niini kay ang pag-ampo nila sa gilarawanan dili man ingon nga Dios.” (Datapuwat ang idolatry (Exo. 20:3)ay nagpapatuloy; peru hindi ibig sabihin na ang mga Katolico ay nakalabag nito dahil sa pagdadasal nila sa nilalarawan ng imahe (ng mga Santo) ay hindi bilang isang Dios.)

Napatunayan napo natin na hindi sinasamba ng mga Katoiko ang mga larawan bilang Dios; kaya mali po ang tanong ng ating mga kapatid na protestante. Kung gayon tayo bang mga Katoliko ay hindi sumunod sa utos ng Dios sa Exo. 20:4-5? Mga kapatid sumunod po ang Katoliko sa utos na yan; eh kung sumunod ang mga Katoliko sa Exo. 20:4-5; eh bakit may mga larawan o emahi sa kanilang simbahan (marahil yan ang susunod na tanong ng ating mga kaibigan)???

Dapat mo nating malaman na kung tayo ay magbabasa ng Biblia; hindi po natin dapat limitahan ang ating mga pananaw sa mga bagay na inaakala natin na tama. Tulad nalang sa argumentong ito:

Bawal ang mga imahe (Exo. 20:4-5)

Ang mga Katoliko ay may mga imahe

Therefore; Ang mga imahe ng katoliko ay bawal

Sa itaas ay ang halimbawa ng fallacy of generalization ng mga kapatid nating mga protestante dahil, ang Biblia bagaman ay nakasaad ng mga talata na bawal ang mga emahi; ay may roon ding mga nakasulat na utos ng Dios na pagpagawa ng mga imahi; narito po ang mga ebedinsya:

Exo. 25:1, 18-22 (RSV) “The LORD said to Moses; 8 And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. 20 The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be. 21 And you shall put the mercy seat on the top of the ark; and in the ark you shall put the testimony that I shall give you. 22 There I will meet with you, and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim that are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak with you of all that I will give you in commandment for the people of Israel.”

Ano ba ang mga cherubim? Ito po ay mga anghil; at utos ng Dios na magpagawa ng mga statwa ng mga anghil; narito po ang mga ebidensya:

Exo. 25:18-22 (Living Bible) “Then make images of angels, using beaten gold, and place them at the two ends of the lid of the Ark. They shall be one piece with the mercy place, and shall have wings spread out above the gold lid. Install the lid upon the Ark, and the place within the Ark the tables of stone I shall give you. And I will meet with you there and talk with you from above the place of mercy between the cherubim; and the Ark will contain the laws of my covenant. There I will tell you my commandments for the people of Israel.” (Emphasize added)

At saan pa ilalagay ang mga imahi ng mga anghil? Eh ang Biblia po ang ating papasagutin:

2 Cron:3:1; 7-14 (RSV) “3:1Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the LORD had appeared to David his father, at the place that David had appointed, on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.” “3: 7-14 “So he lined the house with gold–its beams, its thresholds, its walls, and its doors; and he carved cherubim on the walls. And he made the most holy place; its length, corresponding to the breadth of the house, was twenty cubits, and its breadth was twenty cubits; he overlaid it with six hundred talents of fine gold. 9 The weight of the nails was one shekel* to fifty shekels of gold. And he overlaid the upper chambers with gold. In the most holy place he made two cherubim of wood* and overlaid* them with gold. 11 The wings of the cherubim together extended twenty cubits: one wing of the one, of five cubits, touched the wall of the house, and its other wing, of five cubits, touched the wing of the other cherub; 12 and of this cherub, one wing, of five cubits, touched the wall of the house, and the other wing, also of five cubits, was joined to the wing of the first cherub. 13 The wings of these cherubim extended twenty cubits; the cherubim* stood on their feet, facing the nave. 14 And he made the veil of blue and purple and crimson fabrics and fine linen, and worked cherubim on it.

Ano po ang nakalagay sa Biblia??? Sa templo ng Dios ilalagay ang mga imahi ng mga anghil!…

Tingnan po natin kung ano ang nakasaad sa ibang version ng Biblia:

2 Cron. 3:7 (The Living Bible) “All the walls, beam, doors, and the thresholds throughout the Temple were plated with gold, with angels engrave on the walls.”

2 Cron. 3:10 (The Living Bible) “Within the innermost, the Holy of Holies, Solomon placed two sculptured statues of angels, and plated them with gold.”

APAKALINAW NA TAYONG MGA KATOLIKO AY SUMUSUNOD LAMANG SA BIBLICAL TEMPLE OF GOD SA OLD TESTAMENT!!!

Eh, sumunod kaya ang mga protestante ditto?????????????????

At tungkol po naman sa paratang na tayong mga Katoliko ay Binago raw po natin ang sampung utos ng Diyos… Abay napakalinaw na talagang walang alam itong mga kapatid nating mga protestante sa Biblia; dahil dalawa po ang nakasaad/version ng sampong utos ng Dios diyan sa Biblia. Ang isa po ay makikita sa Exo. 20:4-17 at ang isa naman ay makikita sa Deut. 5:6-21; at pakaalaman natin na tayong mga Katoliko ay sumunod sa Deut. 5:6-21 na version. At dapat rin nating tandaan na ang sampong utos ay walang insaktong talaan ng bilang o numbers kaya may pagkaka-iba ang 10 commandments ng mga protestante; sa Katoliko/Luteranismo version.

Nasagutan po ang tanong at abangan po ang susunod na mga bahagi…….

Salamat pos a inyong pagbasa…… Abangan po ang pangalawang bahagi….