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2 Pedro 1:1 sa Gramatikong Griego

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on July 17, 2018

2 Pedro 1:1 sa Gramatikong Griego
(Depensa sa Pagka-Dios ni Jesu-Cristo)
Ni Bro. G-one T. Paisones

Pagsupak:
Ang saktong paghubad sa 2 Pedro 1:1 mao kini “Simon Peter, a bondservantand Apostle ofJesus Christ: To those to whom there has been allotted the same precious faith as that which is ours through the righteousness of our God and of our Saviour Jesus Christ .” Busa klaro kaayo nga ang gihisgutan diha sa katapusang sentence sa 2 Ped.1:1 duha ka persona, ug kini ang Dios nga Amahan ug ang manluluwas nga si JesuCristo. Ang proweba niini mao ang position sa pronoun “ημων” (hemon) [kanato sa binasaya] pagkahuman sa θεου (Theon) [Dios sa binasaya] nagapakita sa pagkalahi sa θεος (Theos) gikan sa σωτηρ (soter) [manluluwas sa binasaya].
Ania ang duha ka parallels niini:

Titus 2:13 της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου
2 Thess. 1:12 την χαριν του θεου ημων και κυριου ιησου χριστου
2 Peter 1:1 εν δικαιοσυνη του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου

Titus 2:13 of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ (NRSV)
2 Thess. 1:12: in accord with the grace of our God and Lord Jesus Christ (NAB-RE)
2 Peter 1:1 through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: (NRSV)

Kung ang “ημων” (hemon) naga connecta sa θεου (Theon) ug sa σωτηρος (soteros) sa hini
usa sa unang ehemplo nato (Atong Dios-ug-Manluluwas), kini maka pabuwag sa θεου (Theon) gikan sa iyang gi-coordinate nga substantive diha sa ikaduha ug ikatulo nga mga ehemplo: “atong Dios ug ang atong Ginoong JesuCristo” (2 Tes. 1:12), “atong Dios ug ang atong Manluluwas si JesuCristo” (2 Ped.1:1).

Tubag:
Ang gihatag nga gramatikong rason sa itaas usa ka sayop; tungod kay ang duha ka substantives gi-usa lamang ilalom sa vinculum sa isa lang ka article, ang personal pronoun ma-apply sa duha; bisan kini nag-una sa matag-usa (2 Ped. 1:10 ὑμῶν (your) τὴν (-) κλῆσιν (calling) καὶ (and) ἐκλογὴν (election)) oh musunod bisan sa substantives (Efe. 3:5 τοῖς (to) ἁγίοις (holy)
ἀποστόλοις (apostles) αὐτοῦ (His) καὶ (and) προφήταις (prophets); 1 Tes. 3:7 ἐπὶ (in) πάσῃ (all) τῇ (the) ἀνάγκῃ (distress) καὶ (and) θλίψει (tribulation) ἡμῶν (of us)). Tungod niana makita sa makatulo ka higayon diha sa Ikaduhang sulat ni Pedro “τοῦ (of the) Κυρίου (Lord) ἡμῶν (of us) καὶ (and) Σωτῆρος (Savior), Ἰησοῦ (Jesus) Χριστοῦ (Christ)” (1:11;2:20 ; 3:18), diin walay komentaresta sa Biblia nga naga diperensya sa Κυρίου (Lord) ngadto sa σωτηρ (savior).
Sa 2 Ped.1:1 ang “ημων” (of us) malimitahan patumong ngadtu sa Dios lamang kung kini anaay article nga τοῦ (of the) nga idugang sa σωτηρος (savior). Ania ang ebedensya nga duha ka parallels:
2 Peter 1:1 εν δικαιοσυνη του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
2 Peter 1:2 εν επιγνωσει του θεου και ιησου του κυριου ημων
Ang bersikulo 2 klarong gi-deperensya ang Dios ug si Cristo, ug natural nga kini enterpretahon diri
[sa bersikulo 1 ], nga walay igong rason aron sa sa pag-ila sa mga persona dinhi [sa bersikulo 1 ] ug ang kalahian diri [sa bersikulo 2 ] .

2 Peter 1:1 (Greek New Testament)

σιμων πετρος δουλος και αποστολος ιησου χριστου τοις ισοτιμον ημιν λαχουσιν πιστιν εν δικαιοσυνη του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου

σιμων (oimon) πετρος (Petros) δουλος (doulos) και (kai) αποστολος (Apostolos) ιησου (Iesou) χριστου (Christou) τοις (tois) ισοτιμον (isotimon) ημιν (hemin) λαχουσιν (lachousin) πιστιν (pistin) εν (en) δικαιοσυνη (dikaiosone) του (tou) θεου (Theon) ημων (hemon) και (kai) σωτηρος (soteros) ιησου (Iesou) χριστου (Christou).

oimon Petros doulos kai Apostolos Iesou Christou tois isotimon hemin lachousin pistin en dikaiosone tou Theon hemon kai soteros Iesou Christou

2 Peter 1:11 (Greek New Testament)
ουτως γαρ πλουσιως επιχορηγηθησεται υμιν η εισοδος εις την αιωνιον βασιλειαν του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου

Greek (With Latinized Words)
ουτως (outos ) γαρ (gar) πλουσιως (plousios) επιχορηγηθησεται (epichoregethesetai) υμιν (umin) η (he) εισοδος (eisodos) εις (eis) την (ten) αιωνιον (aionion) βασιλειαν (Basileian ) του (tou) κυριου (Kuriou) ημων (hemon) και (kai) σωτηρος (soteros) ιησου (Iesou) χριστου (Christou)

Latinized:
outos gar plousios epichoregethesetai umin he eisodos eis ten aionion Basileian tou Kuriou hemon kai soteros Iesou Christou

Berean Interlinear Bible
1Συμεὼν (Simon) Πέτρος (Peter), δοῦλος (a servant) καὶ (and) ἀπόστολος (apostle)
Ἰησοῦ (of Jesus) Χριστοῦ (Christ),
Τοῖς (To those) ἰσότιμον (equally precious) ἡμῖν (with ours)
λαχοῦσιν (having obtained) πίστιν (a faith), ἐν (through)
δικαιοσύνῃ (the righteousness) τοῦ (of the) Θεοῦ (God) ἡμῶν (of us) καὶ (and)
Σωτῆρος (Savior), Ἰησοῦ (Jesus) Χριστοῦ (Christ):

2 Peter 1:11 “Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith as privileged as ours through the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ ”
Dinhi klaro nga usa lang ka persona ang gi tumbok sa Dios ug sa Manluluwas, ug kini mao si JesuCristo.

Parallel

του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου 2 Peter 1:1
του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου 2 Peter 1:11

tou Theou hēmōn kai sōtēros Iēsou Christou -our God and Savior Jesus Christ (2 Peter 1:1, RSV)
tou Kuriou hēmōn kai sōtēros Iēsou Christou – our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (2 Peter 1:11, RSV)

Note: Atong makita ang pagka parallel sa 2 Pedro 1:1 ug sa 2 Pedro 1:11 diin mao ra nga mga pulong, letra ug porma sa pagka sulat apan ang “Theou” kon Dios sa 2 Pedro 1:1 giilisdan lang ug “Kuriou” kon Ginoo sa 2 Pedro 1:11. Dako kining katabang sa pagpamatuod nato sa pagka Dios ni Cristo kay kasagaran sa mga Non-Trinitarian (ilabi na ang mga Saksi ni Jehova ug ang Iglesian ni Cristo nga gitukod ni Felix Manalo) mulosot kon moiskapo man ug dayon mo diskarte sa pag-ingon nga “duha ka subjects ang gihisgutan diha sa 2 Pedro 1:1; ang Dios ang Amahan, ug ang Manluluwas nga si Jesu-Cristo.”

Apan tungod sa pag-abot sa mga modernong pagtoon karon, ato nang matubag nga sayop diay ang ilang pag-ingon nga duha ka subjects ang gihisgutan sa 2 Pedro 1:1; kay pinasukad sa Greek Grammar atong nasuta nga si Cristo lamang ang object diha sa “atong Dios ug Manluluwas nga si Jesu-Cristo.” Kini nga Greek Grammar ginatawag kon ilado kaayo sa katawagang Granville Sharp’s Rule diin kini gipakita ni Granville Sharp. Ang doctrina sa Biblia tin-aw kaayo kini nga nagpakita nga si Cristo tawo nga matuod ug Dios nga matuod, apan ang ang gipatin-aw ni Granville Sharp bahin sa Greek Grammar makatabang kaayo ug dako sa atong pagtoo.

Ang Granville Sharp’s Rule nagkanayon nga kon ikaw adunay duha ka nouns, diin kini sila dili mga tinood nga pangalan (proper name) parihas sa Cephas, oh kang Pablo, oh kang Timotio; diin nag hulagway (describe) sa usa ka persona (person) ug ang duha ka nouns gikonekta kon gisumpay sa pulong “ug” [kon “And”-sa English, kon “kai ”-sa Griego] ug ang unang noun anaay article nga “Ang” [kon “The”-sa English; kon “tou ug uban pa”-sa Griego”] ug ang ikaduhang noun walay article, and duha ka noun nagarepresentar sa usa lamang ka persona .

Matud pa ni Daniel B. Wallace nga ang the Granville Sharp rule nag pahimug-at nga “”Sa Griego, kung ang duha ka nouns gisumpay sa [kai] ug ang aricle nagsunod lamang sa unang noun, anaay hugot nga connection and duha. Ang connection nagpakita sa pirmamente sa pipila ka paghiusa. Sa taas nga bahil, kini nagbasabot sa pagkapatas (equality). Sa pinakataas nga bahil kini nagpakita ug usa ka pagkamao kon identity. Kung ang pagkaporma (construction) makatuman sa tulo ka specifikong kabug-aton (demand), nan, tungud niana ang duha ka noun permamenting nag tumong lamang sa usa ka persona. Kung ang pagka porma (Construction) wala makatuman sa mga gikinahanglan (requirements), ang mga nouns mahimo oh dili mahimo nga mag tumong sa samang persona kon object .

Atong e-apply ang Granville Sharp rule sa 2 Ped. 2:20

2 Pet. 2:20 ει γαρ αποφυγοντες τα μιασματα του κοσμου εν επιγνωσει του κυριου και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου τουτοις δε παλιν εμπλακεντες ηττωνται γεγονεν αυτοις τα εσχατα χειρονα των πρωτων
2 Pet. 2:20 For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. (NASB)

Kay kon tapus sila makaikyas gikan sa mga kahugawan sa kalibutan pinaagi sa ilang kahibalo sa atong Ginoo ug Manluluwas nga si Jesu-Cristo,-kon tapus niini sila magapusgapos pag-usab diha kanila ug pagabuntugon, ang ulahing kahimtang nila labi pa unyang mangil-ad kay sa nahauna. (KJV-Cebuano)

Focus ta sa Application sa Granville Sharp Rule:
 First Rule – Unang noun anaay article
 Second Rule – ang duha ka nouns gikonekta kon gisumpay sa pulong “kai”
 Third Rule – Duha ka Improper Nouns

2 Ped. 2:20:
 επιγνωσει του κυριου και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου τουτοις –Greek
 knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ – NASB
 kahibalo sa atong Ginoo ug Manluluwas nga si Jesu-Cristo – KJV-Cebuano

Bible Verses Unang noun anaay article “Ang oh sa” kon “The”-sa English; kon “tou”-sa Griego ug uban pang mga article ang duha ka nouns gikonekta kon gisumpay sa pulong “ug” [kon “And”-sa English, kon “kai”-sa Griego] Duha ka Improper Nouns Conclusion
2 Ped. 2:20 επιγνωσει του κυριου και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου τουτοις του κυριου  κυριου και σωτηρος  κυριου και σωτηρος  Ang Ginoo ug Manluluwas dinhi nagatumong lamang ni Cristo
2 Pet. 2:20 knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (NASB) the Lord  Lord and Savior  Lord and Savior 
2 Ped. 2:20 kahibalo sa atong Ginoo ug Manluluwas nga si Jesu-Cristo (KJV-Cebuano) sa atong Ginoo  Ginoo ug Manluluwas  Ginoo ug Manluluwas 
2 Pet. 3:18 αυξανετε δε εν χαριτι και γνωσει του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου αυτω η δοξα και νυν και εις ημεραν αιωνος του κυριου  κυριου ημων και σωτηρος  κυριου ημων και σωτηρος  Ang Ginoo ug Manluluwas dinhi nagatumong lamang ni Cristo
2 Pet. 3:18 But grow in the
grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (NRSV) of our Lord  Lord and Savior  Lord and Savior 
Titus 2:13 προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου του μεγαλου θεου  θεου και σωτηρος  θεου και σωτηρος  Dinhi ang dakong Dios ug Manululuwas nagatumong lamang ni Jesu-Cristo
Titus 2:13 while we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ (NRSV) Of our great God  God and Savior  God and Savior 
2 Tes. 1:12 οπως ενδοξασθη το ονομα του κυριου ημων ιησου εν υμιν και υμεις εν αυτω κατα την χαριν του θεου ημων και κυριου ιησου χριστου του θεου  θεου ημων και κυριου  
2 Tes. 1:12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and Lord Jesus Christ. (YLT) of our God  God and Lord  God and Lord 
2 Pet. 1:1 ουτως γαρ πλουσιως επιχορηγηθησεται υμιν η εισοδος εις την αιωνιον βασιλειαν του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου του κυριου  κυριου ημων και σωτηρος  κυριου ημων και σωτηρος 

2 Pet. 1:11 του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
2 Pet. 1:1 του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
2 Tes. 1:12 του θεου ημων και κυριου ιησου χριστου

2 Pet. 1:1 of our God and Savior Jesus Christ (NRSV)
2 Tes. 1:12 of our God and Lord Jesus Christ (YLT)

Sa atong research ang 2 Tes. 1:12 sa mga version Catolico kini ang makita:
-according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ (NRSV-CE)
-according to the grace of our God, and of the Lord Jesus Christ (DRB)
– by the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ (Jerusalem Bible)
– in accord with the grace of our God and of the Lord Jesus Christ (CPDV)
-through the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ (Westminster Version)
– according to the loving plan of God and of Christ Jesus, the Lord (Christian Community Bible)
-according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ (Confraternity Version)
– according to the loving plan of God and of Christ Jesus, the Lord (TEV-CE)
Atong makita nga duha ka persona ang gihisgutan sa mga version sa itaas; apan anaay laing version sa Katolikong Biblia nga nag hisgot sa isa lang ka persona ug kini ang New American Bible with Revised New Testament:
-in accord with the grace of our God and Lord Jesus Christ (NAB-RE)
Matud sa mga comentaresta sa The New Jerome Bible Commentary; sa ilang comentaryo sa ikaduhang Pedro, sila nagka nayon “The Theologically significant application of the title “God” (theos) to Christ, although unusual in the NT, it is not unparalleled (Jn 1:1; 20:28; Heb. 1:8; probably also in Ti.2:13; 2 Thes.1:12; Roma 9:5; 1 John 5:20) ”

Mga Argumento nganong USA ra ka persona ang gihisgutan sa 2 Ped.1:1 

1. Usa lamang ka artikolo – Ang explanation anaa sa itaas sa pinakaunang tubag.

2. Ang paggamit sa σωτηρ (soter) sa 2 Pedro
1:1 του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
1:11 του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
2:20 του κυριου και σωτηρος ιησου χριστο
3:2 του κυριου και σωτηρος
3:18 του κυριου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
Daghang atong ma-obserbahan nga ang pag gamit sa σωτηρ (soter) diha sa 2 Pedro, ug kini ang mga sumusunod:
[1] kini kanunay referado ug nagpasabot nga si JesuCristo
[2] dili kini siya makabarog nga siya lamang nagkinahanglan kini siya kanunay sa nag-unang articular noun diha sa κυριου (Lord) upat ka beses oh sa θεου (Dios) usa ka beses; ug ang “o κυριου (ημων) και σωτηρ nga gisagol nagatumong kanunay sa usa lamang ka persona. Ang gamit sa σωτηρ (manluluwas)masking asa sa 2 Pedro hugot nga nagsugyot nga ang ang responsibilidad sa pagpakitag ebedensya si kinsa kadtong nagadumili sa pagdawat diha sa 2 Ped.1:1 nga kini referado lamang sa usa ka persona nga mao si JesuCristo.

[3] Ang Doxolohiya kang Cristo diha sa 2 Pedro 3:18 – Sa Bag-ong Tugon ang doxolohiya kasagaran etumong ngadtu sa Dios ug talagsa ra e-tumong ngadtu kang Jesu-Cristo (Rom.16:24, 1 Ped.4:11), apan sa upat ka okasyon diha sa (2 Tim. 4:18) (2 Ped. 3:18) (Rev. 1:5-6) (Rev. 5:13) kini nga doxolohiya gitumong direktamente kang Cristo (Rev. 5:12). Sa 2 Ped. 3:18 walay posibilidad nga kalibog oh pagduhaduha kung asa kini gitumong (…ιησου χριστο.,,) sama sa Roma 9:5, Roma 16:27; 1 Ped. 4:11 oh ang Heb.13:21. Isip usa sa paghatag ug pagpasidungog sa usa ka Dios nga persona, ang doxolohiya nagapakita sa dili masukod nga paghatag ug estimate sa pagtumong (address) sa nagsulti oh ang magsusulat. Ang magsususlat nga nagahatag ug address sa usa ka doxolihiya para kang Cristo, dili maglisud sa pag apply sa terminong θεου (Dios) ngadto kang Cristo. Walay igong rason sa pagdumili nga ang 2 Pedro 1:1 diin si Cristo gitawag ug “atong Dios ug Manluluwas”

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CFD (Ryan Mejillano) vs Kinawawang INC (Julius Cutin)

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on November 17, 2012

CFD (Ryan Mejillano) vs Kinawawang INC (Julius Cutin)

Tingnan po naman ninyo ang isa nanamang kinawawang Ministro ng INC-Manalo laban sa ating kapatid na si Bro. Ryan Mejillano ng Catholic Faith Defenders.
This four-part video is the supposed discussion turned debate between CFD Bro. Ryan and Minister Julius Cutin of INC(Manalo), Locale of Mintal, District of Davao. It was initiated by the INC (of Manalo) to trap Bro. Ryan thinking that the latter was just a petty and mediocre Catholic Christian. This happened at the residence of an INC member who was very desiroua few months before to engage Bro. Ryan in a debate with another INC (of Manalo) Minister.

Please notice the difference between a Catholic Christian and Iglesia Ni Cristo (Ni Manalo). Notice how an INC Minister delivers his part, his speeches, how he evades from the main topic that was agreed, how he first use foul words from the start to the end of these four videos.

Enjoy and reflect.

Sancta Maria, ora pro nobis.

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Ang Tunay Na Iglesia

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on February 17, 2010

Ang Tunay Na Iglesia

Ni Bro. G-one T. Paisones

(Catholic Faith Defender)
(Catholic Faith Lay Apostolic Movement of the Philippines)

Mapapansin po natin sa ating paligid, sa TV man at Radyo na may maraming mangangaral at bihasa sa Biblia na nagsasabi na sila ang tunay na iglesia at ang iba naman ay mali.  At karamihan sa mga ito ay hinahamak ang pananampalatayang Katoliko. Ano ba ang masasabi ng Biblia tungkol sa pangyayaring ito?

Mga kaibigan at mga kapatid hindi napo bago ang mga pangungutya at pang-aapi ng mga kaaway ng Santa Iglesia na makikita natin ngayon; pag sinuri po natin maiigi ang Christian History, abay inyong matutoklasan na ang iilan sa mga Doctrina ng erehe o yong kaaway ng Tunay na Simbahan ay kinopya po ang mga ito ng mga bagong sulpot na mga nagsasabing Kristianos daw sila. Halimbaha nalang ng Arianismo na kinopya ng Jehova’s Witnesses at ng Iglesiang itinatag ni ginoong Felix Manalo na pinangalan niyang Iglesia ni Cristo.

Ano ba o sino ba ang tunay na Iglesiang itinatag ni Cristo? Ang Iglesia ni Cristo(manalo) ba? – sa pangalan animoy si Cristo ang nagtatag, ngunit sa Rehistro Certifico (Registered Certificate) abay napakalinaw po na si Felix Manalo ang nagtatag. At pakakatandaan po natin na maraming grupo ng mga sektang protestante na nagdadala ng ganitong uri ng pangalan; nariyan ang Church of Christ na itinatag ni Alexander Campbell; United Church of Christ; Church of Christ “Scientist”; at marami pang iba.

Ano ba ang sinasabi sa Biblia patungkol sa mga sektang nagdadala ng pangalan ng Dios? Narito po ang nakalagay Jere. 7:4,10-11 (Ang Biblia -Cebuano Protestant Bible-) “Ayaw kamo pagsalig sa bakakong pulong, nga nag-ingon: Ang templo ni Jehova, ang templo ni Jehova, mao kini ang templo ni Jehova” “Ug unya moanhi ug motindog sa akong atubangan, sulod niining balaya, nga gitawag sa akong ngalan, ug moingon: kita luwas na; aron kamo magbuhat niining tanan nga mga dulumtanan? Kining balaya, nga gitawag sa akong ngalan, nahimo bang usa ka lungib sa tulisan sa inyong mga mga mata? Ania karon ako bisan pa ako nakakita niini, nagaingon si Jehova. Jere. 7: 4 (Magandang Biblita Biblia) “Huwag ninyong dayain ang inyong sarili sa paulit-ulit na pagsasabing: Ito ang Templo ni Yahweh, ang Templo ni Yahweh, ang templo ni Yahweh! Hindi kayo maliligtas ng salitang iyan. Ang templo at bahay sa nasambit ay aplikado sa iglesiang itinatag lamang ng pangkaraniwang tao (1 Tim. 3:15). Malinaw po ang nakasaad sa Biblia na wag tayong padadaya sa mga iglesiang nagdadala ng pangalan ng Panginoon sapagkat ito po ay piki at hindi tunay.

Sa ibaba po ay inyong makikita ang mga karagdagang ebedinsya na hindi malilipol ang tunay na Iglesiang itinatag ni Cristo; at hindi ito kalian man tatalikod; taliwas ito sa mga sinambit ng maraming mangangaral umano ng Biblia:

IGLESIA =from Greek word Ekklesia (EKKLESIA)

  • Church, congregation, assembly, gathering (of religious, political or unofficial groups) GREEK NEW TESTAMENT DICTIONARY, Page 55
  • The assembly of those are called (Today’s English Version –New Testament-Page 37
  • Hebrew word “QAHAL” Mat. 16:18 Footnote –Jerusalem Bible-

Mat. 16:18 Si Jesus naagtatag ng Iglesia

Mat. 18:17 Naitatag talaga ang Iglesia

Mat. 28:19-20 Sasamahan ni Jesus ang Iglesia hanggang sa kataposan ng mundo

Mat. 28:19 Ay Siya ang mangangaral ng Magandang Balita

1 Tim. 3:15 Haligi at saligan ng katotohanan

Boh. 20:28 Itinubos sa dugo ni Jesus ang Iglesia

Efe. 5:29 Inaalagaan ni Cristo-Jesus ang kanyang Iglesia

Efe. 5:25 mahal ni Jesus ang kanyang Iglesia

Efe. 5:23 At Siya ang magliligtas nito

Col. 1:18 dahil ito ay ang kanyang katawan

Col. 3:15 Tayo ay tinawag para magpasakop Kanyang Iglesia

Juan 14:16, 26 Sasamahan ng Espirito Santo ang Iglesia magpakailan man

Efe.2:14 Pinawi ng katawan ni Cristo ang alitan na prang pader ng Diyos at sa ating mga tao

Amos 9:11 ibabangon ang muli ang sambayanan ni David

Dan. 2:44 Ang Dios ay magtitindig ng isang kahariang hindi maibabagsak kailanman…

Col. 1:13-14 Tayoy dinala Niya sa kaharian ng kanyang Anak

Napatunayan na natin kanina na hindi sa pamamagitan ng pangalan ng templo/bahay o nag iglesia ang sukatan, sabagkat inihula na ni Propeta Jeremias na hindi tayo paloloko sa mga Templong maypangalan ng Panginoon. Eh ano ba ang basihan para malaman natin ang tunay na Iglesiang itinatag ni Cristo? Narito ang sabi ng Biblia: Zac. 3:8 (Ang Biblia Cebuano) “Pamati karon, Oh Josue nga labawng sacerdote, ikaw ug ang imong mga kauban nga nanaglingkod sa imong atubangan; kay sila mga tawo man usa ka ilhanan; kay, ania karon, pakatawohon ko ang akong alagan nga mao ang Sanga.” (Makinig ka ngayon, oh Josue na punong pari, ikaw at ang mga kasama mong nakaupo sa iyong harapan; dahil sila ay mga tao man isang tanda; dahil, narito ngayon, ipanganganak ang taong alagad ko na si Sanga –salin ng may akda-.). Napakalinaw po na may tanda ang mga tao ng Diyos. At sa nasambit na natin sa itaas na ang Iglesia ay ang mga taong pinili ng Dios. Samakatwid ang tunay na iglesia ay may tanda.  At ano ang tandan ng Iglesia?  Narito ang sagot:

TANDA NG TUNAY NA IGLESIA

1. Isa / Nagkakaisa / One

Juan 10:16 Gusto ni CristoJesus na ang kanyang alagad ay magkakaisa

Juan 17:21 Si Cristo ay nag-dasal na sana ang kanyang mga kawan ay maging isa

Efe. 4:3 Pagkakaisa ay bigay at kaluob ng Espirito Santo

Efe. 4:4-5 Isang Espiritu, isang pag-asa, isang Panginoon at isang binyag

Mat. 16:18 isa lang ang Iglesia ang itinatag ng Panginoong JesuCristo

2. Banal/Santo/ Holy

Luk. 1:35 Ang nagtatag ay Banal o Santo

Buh. 4:27, 30 Si Cristo ay Santo o Banal

1 Ped. 1:16 Ang tagasunod ay magiging banal o santo

Roma. 6:22 (BKK) magbubunga ng pagkabanal

1 Cor. 14: 33 Dahil ito ay ang Iglesia ng mga Santo o Banal

Efe. 5:25 (Jerusalem Bible) Christ made the Church holy

3. Catolica / Catholic

Catholic = From Kata (Kata) and Holos (Holos) / Kath oles (Katholis)

Kata > prep. “Throughout” -The Greek New Testament Dictionary- Page 92

Holos > Whole, all, complete, entire, altogether, wholly –Greek Dict. Page 125

Catholic > or Universal (English / Latin) >Tibook Kalibutan kon makaylapon (Cebuano)

Mat. 28:19-20 Gusto ni Jesus nga mukaylap ang maayong Balita sa tibook kalibutan

Mar. 11:17 Ang Balay pagatawgon ug Balay alang sa Tanang Nasud

Buh. 9:31 (Greek Bible) Ekklesia Kath olis (Ekklesia Kath olis)

Buh. 9:42 KATH OLIS IN GREEK = UNIVERSAM IN LATIN

Buh. 10:37 KATHOLIS IN GREEK = UNIVERSAM IN LATIN

Luc. 4:14 KATHOLIS IN GREEK = UNIVERSAM IN LATIN

Luc. 23:5 KATHOLIS IN GREEK = UNIVERSAM IN LATIN
Catholic or Universal (Introduction to the Catholic Epistle of Saint James) (Douay Rheims Bible)

I Cor. 14: 23 (Latin Bible) Universa Ecclesia

Buh. 5:11 (Latin Bible) Universam Ecclesiam

Roma 16:23 (Latin Bible) Universae Ecclesiae

Catholic or General Epistle “Introduction of the Greek New Testament, Page 48

Sa nasambit natin sa itaas mababasa natin sa Greek Bible ang Ekklesia Kath olis o ang Iglesia Catolica.  At pansinin po niyo na ang words na Kath olis sa Greek ay isinalin sa Latin na Universam; dito nanggaling ang pangalang Catholic na ang ibig sabihin ay universal. Napatunayan natin na mababasa sa Biblia ang Catholic Church.

4. Apostolica / Apostolic

Heb. 3:1 Si Jeus ay Apostol

Efe. 2:20 Itinatag sa ibabaw ng mga Apostol

Juan. 21:15-17 Ipinamamahala ni Jesus ang kanyang Iglesia sa Apostol na si Pedro

2 Cor. 8:23 (Latin Bible) Apostoli Ecclesiarum

2 Tim. 4:1 Apostolic –word-4-words- (NAB New Testament)

Mat. 10:39 Apostolic discourse (Jerusalem Bible)

Act. 1:25 Apostolic –word-4-words- (NIV)

ROMANA:

Buh. 8:1 Labis ang pag-uusig sa Iglesia doon sa Jerusalem

Juan 1:11 Hindi tinanggap si Cristo sa kanyang sariling bayan

Mat. 23:37-38 Nagtampo si Cristo sa Jerusalem

Mat. 21:43 Ito ay kanyang aalisin at ipagkakatiwala sa Bayang mamumunga nang masagana

Buh. 23:11 Ang Roma ay nagbunga ng masagana

Rom. 1:6-8 Sa Roma ay nagbunga ug mga Santo o Banal

Liban sa Biblia, ang Kasaysayan rin at ang mga standard references ay nag papatunay rin na ang Roman Catholic Church ay ang iglesyang itinatag ni Cristo-Jesus. Marami sa ating mga non-catholic brothers ay naiilang sa mga debate laban sa aming mga Catholic Faith Defenders kung kasali na ang mga World history at ang mga standard nonsectarian references sa tindigan sa Debate; sapagkat napakarami tayong ebedensya na nagpapatunay hingil sa tunay na iglesia-ang Santa Iglesia Catolica.

HISTORY & STANDARD REFERENCES

The New Book of Knowledge, Page 287 “Roman Catholic Church” –the history of the Roman Catholic Church begun in an upper room in Jerusalem almost 2,000 years ago. About 120 persons were gathered there.  They were followers of Jesus Christ, and they were awaiting the coming of Holy Spirit he had promised to send them from heaven.  The day on which the Holy Spirit came down is considered the birthday of the Church.  The Church may be described as the society that Jesus founded, which is vitalized by the Spirit of God and organized to a structure which he establish.  The history of Roman Catholic Church traces the destinies of that society from its beginning until now.

The World Almanac and Book of Facts <Edition 2009> Page 688 “Roman Catholics” –traditionally founded by Jesus who named St. Peter the 1st vicar, developed in early Christian proselytizing, especially after the conversion of imperial Rome in the 4th century.

The Old World and America, Page 100 “More than 1900 years ago, Jesus Christ Son of God, came upon earth to save mankind. After His atoning death on the cross He rose glorious and immortal.  Before leaving this world to go to the Father, Our Lord founded the Catholic Church and gave to that Church the command to teach all nations.”

The History of Our World, Page 147, “Jesus, the founder of the Christian religion….”

The New Webster’s Dictionary of English Language <International Edition> Page 155. Catholic = of the original Christian Church before the schism between East and West // of the Roman or Western Church after this schism and before the reformation.

International Encyclopedia, Volume 20, Page 520 “Roman Catholic Church” There are two equally valid definition of the Catholic Church, comparable to the twofold nature of Jesus Christ, its founder, who was both human and divine.

Young Students Encyclopedia, Volume 17, Page 261 “Roman Catholicism” the largest of the Christian denomination is the Roman Catholic Church. As an institution it has existed since the 1st century AD,…”

Compton’s Encyclopedia & Fact-Index, Volume 20, Page 2024 “Roman Catholic Church” For the first thousand years after the death of Jesus Christ, all Christians were members of one religion – Christianity.  There were no separate sects, or branches, of Christianity as there are today.  The word “catholic” means “universal,” and for those first thousand years, all Christians were members of the Catholic Church.

Microsoft Student 2009 DVD (an Ebook)

Traditionally, the church is said to have four marks, or notes: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Grollier Encyclopedia, Volume V, page 106 “Catholic Church (Gr. Katholikos, universal, general). Term generally applied to the Divine society founded by Jesus Christ, and endowed by the outpouring of the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost.

PATOTOO NG IBANG RELIHIYON

Ano ba ang sabi ng Ibang relihiyon hinggil sa pagpapatunay na ang Iglesia Catolica Ay itinantag ni Cristo sa unang siglo? Narito ang kanilang patotoo hinggil dito:

Iglesia ni Cristo(Manalo)

Pasugo Magasine, July-August 1988, page 6 “Even secular history shows a direct time link between the Catholic church and the Apostles, leading to the conclusion that the true Church of Christ is the Catholic Church”

Pasugo Magasin, April 1965, Page 41, by Bro. C. P. Sandoval “So we don’t question the claim of the Catholic apologist, that the Catholic Church alone could trace back its origin to the apostles.”

->inamin na nila, peru sabi nila (Iglesia ni Cristo-manalo) na ang Santa Iglesia Catolica ay ang tunay na Iglesiang itinatag ni Cristo na tumalikod; ngunit sa nasambit na natin sa itaas na hinding-hindi ito (ang tunay na Iglesia) tatalikod kalian man Mat. 16:18-19; Mat. 28:19-20; Juan 14:16;26.

Seventh Day Adventist Church

The voice of prophecy –Friendship Course- F-12, Jun Sabate, “Oo, katoliko ang matuod nga iglesya!

The voice of prophecy –Friendship Course- F-19, Jun Sabate, “Usa ka kinaiya sa matuod nga iglesia mao ang panaghiusa… Laing timaan sa matuod nga iglesya mao ang pagkabinalaan… Ang ikatulong timaan sa matuod nga iglesia mao ang iyang pagka-katoliko o pagka-universal… Tinuod ang ikaupat ug hinungdanong timaan sa matuod nga iglesya mao ang iyang pagkaapostoliko.

Jehovah’s Witnesses

Pagmata, Pebrero 2007, page 4, “Ang mga Latino Amerikanong mas tigulang makahinumdom pa sa panahon nga usa ra ang relihiyon, ang Romano Katolisismo.”

Mark D. Taylor (President of Tyndale House Publishers, Inc.)

The Complete Book of Bible Knowledge, By Mark D. Taylor, page 290, “Roman Catholic church- For the first thousand year after Christ, the church was catholic (universal) and unified.”

-Itong artikolo na ito ay alay sa aming kasamahan na pumayapa nasi Bro. Henry Clarito-

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A Friendly Reply to the INC-Manalo Member

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on August 14, 2009

A Friendly Reply to the INC-Manalo Member

 

jheff
jheff.20@yahoo.com
222.127.47.110

 

Submitted on 2009/05/26 at 1:18pm

pwede po ba bago kayo magsalita ng kung ano ano about INC.. na di niyo naman po alam ..
tignan nyo muna .. suriin nyo muna kung ano tlaga ang nasa loob at aral ng iglesia ni cristo.
salamat po.

 

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jheff
jheff.20@yahoo.com
222.127.47.110

 

Submitted on 2009/05/26 at 1:21pm

kahit sino naman po .. kahit anong relihiyon mo .. welcome naman po kayo .. sa kahit saang local po ng iglesia ni cristo..

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catholicfaithdefender
philans_57cdo@yahoo.com
203.177.91.195

 

Submitted on 2009/08/14 at 10:18am

Bro Jeff,

Salamat sa comento mo, alam mo ikaw pa ang mabait na INC-Manalo na nag comento sa aming site…
At sa ulit maraming salamat sa iyong kabaitan…

Bro… alam na namin ang mga aral ninyo at hindi na kailangan suriin pa namin ang aral niyo…

ang totoo niyan ikaw ang kailangan sumuri o mag siyasat sa tunay na aral ng Katoliko, dahil puro lang ataki o mga negatibo ang alam mo tungkol sa Santa Iglesia Catolica dahil yan ang pan doctrina ninyo…

Bro, wag mung isara ang pintuan ng iyong kaluluwa….

Sa tingin mo ba totoo ang sinabi ng mga Ministro na Tumalikod ang Unang Iglesia na itinatag ni Cristo???
Eh ikaw, tanongin mo ang sarili mo kung sino ang nagsasabi ng totoo:
Ang mga Ministro ba na nagsasabi na tumalikod o si Cristo na nagsabing Sasamahan Niya ito hanggang sa Katapusan ng Mundo…*Mat. 28:19-20

Bro, isang cetas lang yan ng Biblia, peru pag bukas ang loob mo na suriin ang katotohanan; ang isang cetas ng Bibliyang gamit ko ay parang isang palito ng posporo na may mumunting ilaw peru ito ang ilaw na mag silbing simula sa tamang aral ni Cristo.

Regards,

G-one Paisones

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jheff
jheff.20@yahoo.com
222.127.47.110

 

Submitted on 2009/06/12 at 1:14pm

wag naman po kayo magsalita ng di naman totoo. ayan po ang hirap satin eh .. pintas kau ng pintas .. di nyo naman po tlga alam kung ano ang iglesia ni cristo.. hindi po namumulitika ang iglesia at di rin po kami nang aabuso at kung ano2 pa ..
maharil ang mga nabasa mo po ay isang kasiraan po sa amin ..
subukan mo pong pumasok o mag suri sa iglesia upang mapatunayan mo po ang kung alin po talaga ang totoo.. kahit sino naman po welcome sa lahat po ng local po ng iglesia ni cristo..
salamat po..

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catholicfaithdefender
philans_57cdo@yahoo.com
203.177.91.195

 

Submitted on 2009/08/14 at 10:26am

Bro jheff,

Sa binisaya pa ayaw baliha (Sa tagalog: wag mong baliktarin)…. Kame ba ang namimintas sa inyong mga INC-manalo?? Namimintas ba kami kay Manalo?? Namimintas ba kami sa mga Ministro???

O baka kayo ang namimintas sa mga Katoliko, Mga Pari at sa Santo Papa….

Bro, nag umpisa akong bumasa ng Pasugo noong Grade 5 palang ako, at sa nabasa ko puro Pintas lang ang nasaloob nito… Mga aral ng Iglesia Catolica….kaya doon rin mismo isinabi ko sa Sarili ko, eh sino ba ang sumasagot sa mga pintas ng mga INC-manalo??? Wala po akong sagot sa sarili kong tanong kaya, nag desisyon ako na maging isang Catholic Faith Defender para maging tagasagot sa mga ataki ng INC-manalo….

OO!!! ang pasugo ang Dahilan na akoy naging CFD ngayon…. Kung wala pang nang aaliposta sa Iglesia Catolica, ano na kaya ang buhay ko ngayon???? Kaya Bro. Jeff, wag mong baliktarin….

Salamat

Regards,

G-one

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An INC to Be Baptized tomorrow

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on April 13, 2009

An INC to Be Baptized tomorrow

From:

A convert to Catholicism was baptized and confirmed last year in the Parish of the Lord of Divine Mercy’s Tridentine Easter Vigil. My mother also helped an Aglipayan to be formally received into the Church last year (with conditional baptism, not just confirmation) . So, yes, there are converts here and there. Now, if only they could articulate their reasons for conversion

I’m glad to see that some priests are willing to err on the side of prudence, and so confer conditional baptism even for Protestants and Aglipayans coming into the Church. The opposite practice — that of not conditionally baptizing people with doubtfully valid baptisms — is fraught with consequences that may be spiritually unpleasant. Given that so many non-Catholic churches like to fudge, or get creative with, their baptismal rites, one can never be too sure!


From: Filipino Catholic
To: apologia Navarro, Pinoy Defensores
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:32:29 PM
Subject: [apologia-ph] An INC to Be Baptized tomorrow

Hello everyone!

I watched Servant of God Fr. Patrick Peton’s Family Rosary Crusade at ABC 5 this 12:00 noon, and Fr. Eric Santos announced that there will be an Iglesia Ni Cristo to be baptized tomorrow Easter in Tondo. Anybody here who knows somebody from that show? We are surely interested to know the conversion story of this person.

God bless you all!

FC

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From Iglesia ni Cristo (Manalo) Back to the True Church- The Catholic Church

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on February 25, 2009

From Iglesia ni Cristo (Manalo) Back to the True Church- The Catholic Church


Former Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) – Francis Raymund Gonzales back to the true church-the Catholic Church.

Francis Raymund Gonzales former Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) interviewed by Cielbert A. Dondoyano, Sr., CFA (known as veritas899) in RMN_ Sep. 28, 2008..

Brother Cielbert A. Dondoyano, Sr is a member of Catholic Faith Defender in Mindanao.  Brother veritas899 is excellent in apologetics and debate.  This is the blog of brother veritas899: http://veritas899.weebly.com/


Former Iglesia ni Cristo INC Francis Raymund Gonzales in MP3

Please follow this link:

http://www.catholicnetwork.tv/media/293/Former_Iglesia_ni_Cristo_INC_-_Francis_Raymund_Gonzales_Cebuano/


Posted in Apologetics-Visayan, Converts, Doctrinal Comparison, Iglesia ni Cristo-Manalo, MP3 Visayan Apologetics | 10 Comments »

THE SIGN OF THE BEAST

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on February 3, 2009

THE SIGN OF THE BEAST

By Fr. Abe Arganiosa

Link: http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2008/09/sign-of-beast.html

Bro. Franz Luigi Lugena with Fr. Abe Arganiosa in The Splendor of the Church TV program discussing the issue: THE SIGN OF THE BEAST

Last August 24, 2008 our program received a text message from Mr. Jerry of Casiguran requesting us to discuss the ‘Mark of the Beast‘ from the Book of Revelation. He states that it is frequently presented in the Hope Channel and is eager to know the answer of the Catholic Church. As a response we decided to dedicate our next program on the topic. What is presented here is a mere portion of what we discussed on air but we hope to provide the basic answer to our readers.

THE TESTIMONY OF THE SACRED SCRIPTURE:

This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.” [Revelation 13:18 New International Version]

Based on the above citation the Mark of the Beast corresponds to a man’s number or the number corresponds to the name of a human person.

Among the anti-Catholic religious groups, there are two very prominent in accusing the Catholic Church of being the anti-Christ by associating to the Church Rev. 13:18 particularly to the Pope. These two are the IGLESIA NI CRISTO [INC] and SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST [SDA]. They claim that:

The Pope is the Beast because of the Papal Title Vicarius Filii Dei which corresponds to the number 666 when their Roman numerals are counted:

VICARIUS FILII DEI

V = 5

I = 1

C = 100

A

R

I = 1

V = 5

S

F

I = 1

L = 50

I = 1

I = 1

D = 500

E

I = 1

__________

TOTAL 666

• As a proof they claim that the title Vicarius Filii Dei is written in the tiara of the Pope.

When Catholic apologists demand that they show proofs of this claim, specially that of the Pope wearing a Tiara with inscription: Vicarius Filli Dei, they presented these two bogus drawings which only fools shall accept as evidence:

CATHOLIC ANSWER:
• The Book of Revelation refers to a name of a person, not a Title. • Vicarius Filii Dei is never a Papal Title but VICARIUS CHRISTI. • None of the Papal Tiaras bear the words: Vicarius Filii Dei. To prove our assertion here are one fresco and numerous genuine photographs of the recent Popes wearing various Tiaras. Not a single tiara contain their self-invented Title:

Pope Innocent III [1198-1216] Blessed Pope John XXIII [1958-1963]
WIKIPEDIA:
•”Vicarius Filii Dei” is, in fact, not one of the pope’s titles, though the Donation of Constantine (a medieval document forged in the name of the Emperor to legitimate the temporal power of popes) does use it to refer to Saint Peter specifically. [Note: If vicarius filii dei is truly the sign of the anti-Christ then the anti-Christ will be St. Peter. This is preposterous. Because it will mean the Holy Spirit descended on the Anti-Christ during Pentecost and that 2 Epistles on the Bible bears the name of the Anti-Christ.]

Blessed John XXIII

Blessed John XXIII

Pope Paul VI [1963-1978]

Pope Paul VI

WIKIPEDIA:

• Four sources are sometimes given to back up the claim, including two witnesses who claimed to have seen Pope Gregory XVI wearing a tiara with Vicarius Filii Dei on it in 1832 and 1845, the purported existence of a photograph of an early twentieth century papal funeral showing a tiara with the writing, and the assertion that the tiara with the writing was used to crown Eugenio Pacelli as Pope Pius XII in 1939.

Venerable Pope Pius XII [1939-1958]

Pope Pius XII

Pope Pius XII in Sedia Gestatoria & with the Tiara

WIKIPEDIA:

•None of the claims holds up to scrutiny. One of the occasions where the Pope was “seen” wearing the tiara was supposedly during a Pontifical High Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica. In fact popes never wore tiaras during Mass. It was never used as a liturgical item. In addition the tiara used for Pius XII’s coronation in 1939 could not have been worn by Gregory XVI as it was manufactured thirty-one years after Gregory’s death. All the tiaras potentially worn by Gregory still exist; none have writing, nor does the tiara worn by Pius in 1939.

WIKIPEDIA:

•Finally, no evidence as to the existence of the supposed photograph has been produced, nor is it credible that a black and white photograph, taken from a distance inside a darkened St. Peter’s Basilica, in the absence of modern photographic technology or even zoom lenses, could have picked up writing on a far-away tiara, had such writing existed. A photograph of a tiara supposedly on the High Altar behind the coffin of Pope Pius X, at his canonization in 1954 decades after the supposed original photograph, could not see the jewels on the tiara, much less any supposed writing.

The Tiara of the Servant of God Pope VI on display at Immaculate Conception Basilica museum in Washington DC

WIKIPEDIA:

Contrary to claims of a cover-up, all tiaras manufactured since 1800 still exist and are on public display, with a number being sent around the world as part of the Saint Peter and The Vatican: The Legacy of the Popes exhibition which visited the United States in 2005. Only a handful, notably the Belgian Tiara of 1871 and the Gold Tiara of 1903, have any writing at all. The 1871 tiara’s inscription is not Vicarius Filii Dei or anything that could be confused with it, but CHRISTI VICARIO – IN TERRA – REGUM (To the earthly Vicar of Christ).

Pope Leo XIII [1878-1903]

Pope Leo XIII

WIKIPEDIA:

•Many historians, academics and mainstream religious leaders view the story as a classic anti-Catholic myth, a story for which no evidence has been found. Even some Seventh-day Adventist scholars no longer support the view that the “666” of Revelation relates to any inscription on a papal tiara.

WHO IS THE BEAST?

•Nero – Scholars who believe that the Book of Revelation refers to historical people and events argue that the number represents Nero. In Hebrew gematria, every letter has a corresponding number. Summing these numbers gives a numeric value to a word or name. The Greek spelling, “Neron Caesar,” transliterates into Hebrew as “נרון קסר” or “nrwn qsr”:

Resh = 200

Samekh = 60

Qoph = 100

Nun = 50

vav = 6

Resh = 200

Nun = 50

______________

TOTAL 666

Pope Pius XI [1922-1939]

• DOMITIAN The German Protestant theologian Ethelbert Stauffer, arguing that gematria had been the most popular form of numerology not only among Jews but also in the Graeco-Roman world, conceived a Greek gematrical procedure to explain the number 666. Judging from the precise information that the Book of Revelation gives about the person behind the number 666, Stauffer concluded that the “beast” can in general only refer to a Roman emperor and that this Emperor must be Domitian, because he had reigned during the proposed time of origin of the Apocalypse and supposedly was called “The Beast” as a “secret derisive nickname” by Romans, Greek, Christians and Jews.

Α = 1

Κ = 20

Α = 1

I= 10

Δ = 4

Ο = 70

M = 40

Ε = 5

Τ = 300

Σ = 200

Ε = 5

Β = 2

Γ = 3

E = 5

____________

TOTAL 666

Pope Saint Pius X [1903-1914]

THE PROBLEM OF THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO:

* The INC must have realized that their attacks had boomeranged on them because nowadays there are many calculations of the name FELIX YSAGUN MANALO that sums to the number 666. On the part of Catholic Apologists, it is not the official doctrine of the Catholic Church that Felix Manalo or Ellen Gould White are Anti-Christs. However, we are showing their followers calculations of their founders’ names in order to show the ridiculous nature of their accusations against the Catholic Church especially to the Pope, the Vicar of Christ on Earth.

•FELIX [5 letters] because Felix is Latin but if it is translated to Tagalog: PELIKS = 6 letters]

•YSAGUN [6 letters]

•MANALO [6 letters]

= 666 ERAÑO GUZMAN MANALO [translated to Filipino] IRANYO GUSMAN MANALO

IRANYO: 6 Letters

GUSMAN: 6 Letters

MANALO: 6 Letters

_________________

666

The Founder of SDA

ELLEN GOULD WHITE

E

L = 50

L = 50

E

N

G

O

V = 5

L = 50

D = 500

W [V + V] = 10

H

I = 1

T

E

______________

TOTAL 666

IN ONE OF THE BLOGS LISTED IN OUR LINKS ENTITLED PASUGO BLOGSPOT OR SAVINGTHE RAINFORESTS THE BLOGGER GAVE US A MORE SCHOLARLY CALCULATION OF THE NAME OF FELIX MANALO USING THE GREEK AND ROMAN NUMERIC VALUE. We were not able to present this calculation on TV because I only learned of SAVING THE RAINFORESTS the first week of September.
Here are the calculations:
Using the numeric value as listed in the photo text above:
FELIX in Greek: 605
FELIX in Roman: 61
605 + 61 = 666

YSAGUN in Greek: 660
ISAGUN in Roman: 6
660 + 6 = 666

SUMMARY:

• Year INC was founded: 1914

• Ysagun [in Roman]: 6

• Manalo [in Greek]: 192

• Manalo [in Roman]: 1050

TOTAL 1914 – (6 + 192 + 1050)

1914 – 1248 = 666

The live telecast of The Splendor of the Church as seen inside the Control Room

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“Executive Minister of Iglesia Ni Cristo Back to the True Church”

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on January 30, 2009

“Executive Minister of Iglesia Ni Cristo Back to the True Church”

By Bro. G-one Paisones

May nabasa po akong isang aklat na maganda at magagamit sa mga evangelization at apologetics purposes ng mga Catholic Apologist at lahat ng mga Katoliko. Ang aklat na ito ay ang “Paano Ninyo Sasagutin” ni Fr. Ben Carreon (Unang Aklat). Ang naturang aklat ay naglalaman ng mga sagot at information na dapat mabasa ng lahat ng mga Katoliko sa boung Pilipinas. Ang aklat na ito ay mabibili sa mga St. Paul stores.

Madalas na nating naririnig at nababasa na may mga Katoliko na winaksi ang kanilang pananampalataya bilang Katoliko na hindi man lang nila nalalaman ang stand ng doctina ng Santa Iglesia Catolica; ika nga ignoranting mga Katoliko. Ang ilan sa kanila ay umanib sa Iglesia ni Cristo na itinatag ni Felix Manalo noong 1914. Ang isa sa mga information na nakuha ko sa aklat (“Paano Ninyo Sasagutin”) ay makatutulong upang tatagan ang paniniwalang Katoliko at malaman ang Doctrina ng Santa Iglesia Catolica basi narin sa Biblia, Apostolic Tradition at sa Banal na Santa Iglesia Catolica; at maging sa mga karagdagang standard references ay narito:

Paano Ninyo Sasagutin

St. Paul Publication

7708 St. Paul Road, ASV

Makati, Metro Manila

Tel.:88-97-70* 85-50-82

(1st Printing, 1966)

(Revised Edition, 1986)

Pahina 128-129

Sino ang Humirang kay Manalo?

Ni Fr. Ben Carreon

(Emphasis Added)

Totoo ang iyong (Quirico Porras) sinasabing ang ginawa ng mga Kapatid nating nahihiwalay sa mga sektang Saksi ni Jehova at Iglesia ni Kristo ay pulos panlilinlang sa mga Katolikong alanganin ang paniniwala at kulang ng kaalaman sa relihyon. Una: malaking kasinungalingan ang sinasabi ng mga iglesya (Iglesia ni Cristo) na sila ang pinakauna sa lahat ng relihyon. Sang-ayon sa Encyclopedia of the Philippines, Vol. 10, 1936 edition, pahina 432-433, sinulat ni Zoila Galang, ang Iglesya ay itinatag noong 1914, sa Punta, Sta. Ana, Maynila ni Felix Manalo.

Isa rito sa 18 “hinirang ng Diyos” ay si Mr. Igmidio Zabala, dating Superintendente ng mga Iglesya sa Central Luzon, na ngayon ay nagbalik na sa pagka-Katoliko at ang sabi niya’y hindi totoo na sila’y hinirang ng Diyos. Ang humirang sa kanila ay si G. Manalo. Sa “katunayan,” sudlong pa ni Mr. Zabala, “ano mang oras ay naiaalis ni Manalo ang sino man sa amin. Siya ang nag turo sa aming kung ano ang ituturo namin sa mga kaanib sa sariling pakahulugan niya sa mga talata ng Bibliya. Siya ang nagbibigay ng sweldo sa amin.” Bakit sasabihing Diyos ang humirang sa 18 ito?

Samaktwid, sang-ayon na rin sa tinatawag ni Manalong “hinirang ng Diyos” na si Mr. Zabala, hindi totoong Diyos ang humirag sa mga ministro ng Iglesia, at gayon din hindi totoong Diyos ang humirang kay Felix Manalo. Mayroon bang Diyos na pabagu-bago ng patakaran?

At samakatwid, sang-ayon na rin kay Manalo, ang Iglesya ay natayo sa Punta, Ata. Ana, Maynila noong 1914 at hinirang ng Diyos ang kanyang mga ministro noon ding mga petsang yaon. Paano itong magiging “pinakauna” sa lahat ng relihyon? Mahina yata sa arithmetic ang ating mga kapatid na iyan.

Pahina 135

Ang Tunay na Sugo

We are very haapy to have Mr. Igmidio Zabala as a guest columnist in Paano Ninyo Sasagutin. A well-known figure in Manila, he broadcast in DZST as one of the Tinig ni Mang Huwan and writes a column in Sentinel. Mr. Zabala’s name is in the Philippines Encyclopedia as one of the original 18 Ministers of the Iglesya ni Kristo, in which sect he labored for over twenty years, rising to executive position in Luzon until he came back to the Catholic Church a few years ago. A small autobiography has been published: “Ako ay naging Ministro ng Igleya ni Kristo” in which he traced his many years with Felix Manalo and his later disillusionment. The small book has been sold out and no copy is available. We wrote the publishers to request. If they don’t we are planning to serialize it here in the Mindanao Cross.

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WILES AND TACTICS OF IGLESIA NI CRISTO OF MANALO

Posted by catholicfaithdefender on November 22, 2008

WILES AND TACTICS OF IGLESIA NI CRISTO OF MANALO

By: Bro. Soc C. Fernandez

Catholic Faith Defenders Journal

January 1982, Page 24

The Pasugo, an official magazine of the Iglesia Ni Cristo of Manalo, July-August, 1980 issue on page 36, a certain writer, Mr. Joventino A. Santua, in his article, “The Other Sheep of Christ” manifested this:

“The Church of Christ which emerged in the Philippines in 1914 was established by our Lord Jesus Christ through prophesy. God’s messenger, Bro. Felix Manalo, was merely instrumental in propagating the Gospel of Christ. This Church truly has connection to our Lord Jesus Christ.”

This is a pretentious and imposing claim of Iglesia Ni Cristo of Manalo that, the Church of Christ (of Manalo) which emerged in the Philippines in 1914 was established by our Lord Jesus Christ… Just to get along with their line of argument, their minister often say, quoting Saint Paul, “ That ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written…” (1 Cor. 4:6). And they usually lambaste of some Catholic teachings because, according to them, they are mostly unbiblical or not written in the Bible. For them the Bible is the only source of doctrinal teaching, Bro. Felix Manalo sought to enlighten his fellowmen about salvation through the Church of Christ.” (Pasugo Magazine, Page 12, July-August 1980) So whatever which is not in the Bible they easily dismiss it as fake!

Now let us see, if this Iglesia Ni Cristo of Manalo principle that “using the Bible as the only source of doctrinal teaching” would not backfire to them: Where in the Bible the Iglesia Ni Cristo of Manalo minister can read their doctrinal claim, “The Church of Christ which emerged in the Philippines in 1914 was established by our Lord Jesus Christ through prophesy.” They must read that passage literally or else the text which they usually quote, “not to think above which is written” (1 Cor. 4:6) would boomerang against them!

The Iglesia Ni Cristo of Manalo in the Philippines which according to them, reestablished by our Lord Jesus Christ in 1914 has NO TRUE CONNECTION TO THE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, because Christ cannot contradict with Himself. Jesus has candidly promised that within the pale of His unfailing truth, He desired that His Church would not be prevailing (and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it) by the enemies. And He also said, “Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Mat 28:20. And a great Jewish Scholar Gamalrel also confirmed this, “And if this movement and plan (The Church of Christ) is of human origin, it will disappear but if it comes from God, you cannot possibly defeat them. You could find your self fighting against God (Act 5:38-39). The true Church of Christ is for all men and for all times, and teaches the whole truth, it is Universal or Catholic Church not the Iglesia Ni Cristo of Manalo which is only man made.

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